Im disappointed that I have paid and am now being asked to pay again. I doubt anyone in Italy cares much about what you are over, mostly because thieves breaking into cars are not Italian and flee out of Italy After a couple of successful thefts. Statute of Limitations on Texas Traffic Tickets. In case you are in Italy, you have to fill out abollettino postale. Posted on Feb 20, 2010. As for non-EU residents, it depends on whether your country has legal agreements with Italy. For instance, The need to save money "for huge utility fees" derives from the US habit of living as jugglers on credit cards debts . It just applies to different things. Most guide books and online forums warn travelers about ZTLs and other traffic quirks specific to Italy. I had to go to traffic school for speeding once-and it was my first ticket in many years. Then almost a year later (nearly at the 360 day limit) we (me) received another notice for a parking violation for not paying a parking meter. And before Darius piles the "you should have reported your merge to Hertz so they could alert the authorities", why would I do that when the Comune di Modena was the entity that placed merge signs for regular motorists? I don't even remember being in that area. One of them I was able to pay via credit card but the other one only accepted a money order, which cost me an additional $45 to send. Has anyone had experience with this situation? If the fines are not paid they are sending collection agencies to get these fees. We had proof we had paid it, but three emails to Europcar, 2 phone calls (1 to the police by a native speaker, one to Europcar), and a letter later (to the police), complete with the evidence, and they still were hounding us. Houston Sommelier Competition, Taste of Italy, Simply Italian: upcoming wine tastings and events in the Bayou City. Some cities such as Rome and Milan may require registration to do it. However, a properly issued ticket will stay on your record for a long time unless you take action to have it dismissed. Also, you dont have to pay for anything except the cost of the registered letter. It doesnt matter when the officers examine the violation. Hell yes! Here's a little different take on a similar situation. Arrest warrants never expire until you "do the time or pay the fine." The court can issue a warrant years after you were first ticketed. You can also request the cancelation of the paper you find on your windshield. All expenses will be charged to your account. According to a1996 Decret, you can drive and park in ZTLs if you are disabled. Hoping to get the 30% reduced rate, but I'm sure I've passed the deadline at this point. If your appeal is rejected, the statute of limitations will beten years.if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[250,250],'italianviaggio_com-square-3','ezslot_35',805,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-italianviaggio_com-square-3-0'); Before making any decision, you should check the notification of the ticket. Thanks. Wanted to understand where the renter stands as the notice of payment from the police has been sent well in excess of 360 days after police were informed of identity of car renter. Then, the police will send you a letter by ordinary or registered mail. So its possible that all you will receive is the charge from the rental company for communicating your name to the authorities (a nice little extra revenue for the rental company). These are the most common types of tickets in Italy: If you are a tourist, the chances are that you got one of those fines. Petitioner requests an investigation. They also read local papers that are allowed to publish the position of not-fixed speed traps in the following 7 days. We talk to the other persons there in the compartment. Should You Find a Ticket in Your Windshield? This is the downside for sure - European tickets. Besides, there is a 5-year statute of limitation for enforcing a traffic related fine. He used his credit card for the rental car and he drove the entire trip. Until they can prove that I violated one of "their" traffic codes, I'm going to just dispute their claim and see where this goes (see: https://thecreditbureau.com/2016/07/credit-agencies-stop-reporting-unpaid-tickets/). And all others bad experience that italian gave me, at the first day I got there the car rental not allow me to collect the car which makes me pay a much higher rental price to make my 20 days holiday back on, and many italian trying to cheat during the vacation, and the bad thing still follow even few months after the trip. No law obliges you to notify the municipality in advance. Sure enough, 5 months later there it was in the mail. Did you notice 5 charges from the rental company on your credit card? I returned the car, without a scratch on it (other than the original it came with which was noted on the rental agreement). Using fines as an ATM machines to collect money from people is not a problem only in Italian cities and towns, as you can read below: https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/391449-american-courts-should-not-be-turned-into-revenue-machines, https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a15104884/traffic-tickets-have-become-a-tax-hack-pile-on-column/. I typically travel to Italy every year (until Covid hit). Sisal betting shops work similarly to Lottomatica.if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,250],'italianviaggio_com-square-2','ezslot_34',684,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-italianviaggio_com-square-2-0'); The best way to pay for Italian traffic tickets online is by wire transfer. I would first contact the clerk's office in the . The Prefect has210 daysto respond if you send the letter directly to his address. Several weeks later I received a similar notice from the the city of Bologna followed soon after by a notice from the city of Milan. Traffic fines are just a regressive tax measure everywhere, that in some highly visited Italian cities hit tourists more than residents, mostly because tourists are more likely to get lost, but Italians get hit a lot too, especially by the ubiquitous Autovelox machines (speed cameras). The statute of limitations to enforce aticket is five years from the day of the traffic violation (Art. -I rented from Avis (Milan Airport). Remember to bring cash with you. :(. You can choose from these two options if you received the notice: Bus lanes are called corsie preferenziali in Italy. This only applies if the offender and the vehicle owner are different people.if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,600],'italianviaggio_com-narrow-sky-1','ezslot_13',692,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-italianviaggio_com-narrow-sky-1-0'); You can choose between administrative and judicial appeal in Italy. Worked out finejust painful to the pocketbook. It has not been sent registered post and there was no marking on the envelope to suggest it is sent registered post and no one has signed for it. As we all know, politicians prefer to tax people who cant vote them out. Also, you have to add the costs of the proceedings. Did you enter a ZTL or not? There wasn't any indication that we went somewhere we weren't supposed to. I don't trust that even if we were to wire the money today, that the ticket would be cleared by next Saturday. There is a ZTL zone in every italian settlement. 202 CdS: Also, your ticket is enforceable after 60 days. You have five days to plead guilty and pay with a 30% discount. Does it specify the word "March"? It is a system to facilitate the cross-border exchange of information between each Member State. There may be an extra2,5%commission fee on the total amount for online payments.if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[250,250],'italianviaggio_com-leader-3','ezslot_9',685,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-italianviaggio_com-leader-3-0'); If you choose to pay with any online service, you need to count the terms differently. Reveal number. This will result in a waste of time, energy, and money. The car companies dont share the ticket with you but they do send you a notice that you have received a ticket. The authorities must notify the owners of the car within 90 days of the infraction. However, the police draw up the fine after50 daysfrom the date of transit. He takes a monthly photos of his utility meters, and whenever the HUGE utility bills do come, he's prepared. We are very careful to follow all the laws no matter what. We were EXTREMELY careful when driving having read various posts. How do you know that the police were notified of your name and address on the day you were charged? We havent been charged by the rental agency and crossing our fingers that wont happen, and that this is the only ticket. No further actions will be taken if you make the payment within15 days. But debts arising from fines (even those issued by US jurisdictions) are not reported to the credit bureaus and US Courts do not enforce foreign judgements relating to fines, penalties, tax judgements, child support, spousal alimony, therefore the collection agency cannot take you to court. Don't ignore it. So, make sure to always check the picture before making any decision. Essentially, the time for yourresponsestarts from the day you become aware of the fine. My boyfriend just got a violation notice in the mail on Saturday for driving 3.1 km/hr over the limit on the highway when we were in Italy at the beginning of May. I believe both my tickets were unjustified. There is a website for the small towns police department where I was able to look up the violation and see the photo they took of our rental car. Without it, the fine would not be valid. However, it is very risky to appeal without one. We go to Italy every 4 to 5 years, so it isn't that we have not driven there before. If you do live in America and choose not to pay, the credit collection agency will simply contact you and possibly make empty threats until you pay. TheSupreme Court of Cassationsaid that drivers must pay all the penalties. Some people give up to the pressure and the empty threats, others dont. The purpose of a statute of limitations is to avoid being charged with a crime years after it occurred. Not sure if I'm going to pay it or not, I have to do wire transfer which will be a pain. If the ticket arrives after 360 days, dont assume it is expired. With the ordinancen. 26843, the Supreme Court of Cassation confirmed it.if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[320,50],'italianviaggio_com-vertical-banner-2','ezslot_38',806,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-italianviaggio_com-vertical-banner-2-0'); 10 Surprising Reasons Why Driving in Italy Can Be Difficult. My visit to Milan consisted of driving on well posted city streets, parking at the Holiday Inn parking garage and continuing from there on the main highway to Malpensa where I returned the car. But dont get confused; this is not the actual fine. You should be posting your own question because OP will be notified every time someone responds to your question. We would like to show you a description here but the site won't allow us. But if your reasons are debatable, there is no point to keep fighting. The notification will take longer if you get a fine with a rented car in Italy. Speed limits are generally well positioned and visible. Now this. Most tickets are not very expensive if you pay them promptly. But I have a feeling we went in a ZTL zone at one point. A statute of limited included Oklahoma limits that period of time a criminal charge can hang over your head. It limits the amount of time for the case to be filed in court. If you see a charge on your credit card, its not that the car rental company paid for you. If it doesnt respond, the appeal is considered accepted, and you will be free of debt. The inheritance transfer process is pretty cheap and seamless in Italy. 2 days later, I logged in to the credit card and saw a $1,700 charge from Avis. Basically, you cant enter these zones if you dont have a special permit. You will still owe the debt, but the ticket will no longer be enforceable. A fine that can be appealed is "frozen" for 60 days and it can't have Practical effects on the offender. Parking is one of the biggest issues that drivers have in Italy. What I find interesting is that we DID pay that meter and put more money in it over the hr that we were there. In this case,Art. As American wine professionals have begun to travel to Italy again, it was inevitable that they would inadvertently commit a traffic infraction or two. Usually, you only have to enter the ticket code, license plate number, and infraction date. You will never be right in most cases. Much appreciated for any advises. Since I never signed any receipt confirmation, they have no way of proving that I ever received the notices. We take trains. The police may bring it for delivery on thelast daywithout any problem. My understanding is that the police have 360 days to send by registered post from the date they are informed of the identity of car renter. If the statute of limitations has run out, a case should not be started in court. We always have paid our traffic tickets from other countries. Any expense will be borne by the debtor (Art. The police may not contest some violations directly on the spot. TheArt. Criminal statutes of limitations set limits for how long a prosecutor can wait to file criminal charges against a suspect. However, never assume that your hotel transferred your details to local authorities. It is more difficult to locate a foreign address. The last time he moved back to the USA, he dealt with a crazy bureaucracy, as he tried to close out his utility accounts: he finally received his balance, paid, and closed the account. It may take a lot of time and money to dispute a fine, especially if you are a foreigner. Remember that you have to count from the next day you received the ticket. Its still unclear if the foreign attorney (aka, debt collector) can somehow enforce anything in the US. Thanks for reading and hoping this is helpful for future Italian travelers! But even in the unlikely event that happened (and you would definitely make the 8 oclock news in Italy), they dont put you in prison, theyll just send you another fine at home. My relatives in Europe tell me that the Italians are notorious for sending such notices and that I should ignore them. The 'lovely' California collection agency is on my -you know what- because I am contesting it and have not paid it. Except for the severe heat that early June 2015 we had a beautiful week in Tuscany and then a beautiful week in Slovenia but that Saturday I am literally still paying for! 142 CdS):Speed RangeAdministrative SanctionUp to 10 km/km41 to 169Between 10 km/h to 40 km/h169 to 680Between 40 km/h to 60 km/h532 to 2,127More than 60 km/h829 to 3,316, All the machines automatically apply a5%leeway. That one was in error and our hotel paid it (but not the Europcar fee). I felt that I had to drive super fast there just to keep up with traffic. The time limit starts from the date you retire it. Information requested from Commission under Rule 216(6). This topic has been automatically closed due to a period of inactivity. The problem with not paying whether because of negligence or spite is that you can be black-balled by the rental companies. When a police officer issues a ticket during a stop, the period of limitations begins. Two months later Hertz charged my credit card for 43 euros for fine handeling fee. It is a pain, but that is part of the downside to renting cars in Italy. He did a semester abroad starting in September of 2018. The dreaded ZTL and the evolution of the Italian traffic ticket. Or maybe you werent home at the time of delivery. Make sure to keep all the documents that prove the cancelation. depends on the type of violation. link to 10 Surprising Reasons Why Driving in Italy Can Be Difficult. Still, it is perfectly okay if you want to contest your ticket. I'll keep that in mind in the future. **.dal momento che le infrazioni degli stranieri si avvicinano alla met del totale*, (..since the (ZTL) infractions by foreigners approach half of the total), https://www.lanazione.it/firenze/cronaca/ztl-furbetti-varchi-telematici-1.4082069. By Posted could you please confirm your attendance to the meeting In self awareness group activities These areas have cameras at the entrance of each gate. Ignoring a traffic ticket doesn't make it eventually go away. In fact, what matters is the shipping date of the envelope. You need to read your ticket carefully before making any decision. I then took the ticket to a post office where they processed my payment. It's true that 15% of ZTL fines are given to those living in Florence, but outside the ZTL. If it is risky or impossible to do so, the notification will occur after the infraction. You just have to put a barcode of your ticket under an optical reader. Do you live in the United States? She pointed out the notice, in Italian, posted at the end of the street. In Aug., I guess I accidentally drove in a ZTL in Pisa. We relax. We paid with a credit card and got a receipt both from the post office where we paid (host said it was official, not to worry), and the receipt from the credit card. Heres what you need to send in the envelope: If you choose to use the online service, you still have to send the registration by mail. However, it must be at least 5 km/h. According to apolice report, there were657.804speeding tickets in 2019. From thedate of ascertainment, authorities must notify the fine within90 days. The most common ticket is for speeding. Yes, therefore pay. Of course, the collection agency is inflating the financial charges, but like many who have posted on this and other forums, a traffic ticket is a far different offense than defaulting on a loan or other financial obligation which would affect your credit score. Makes me wonder if people who have posted about TransferWise are just trying to promote the service Transferwise is very trusted in the expat community when we want to transfer money between the home bank and the foreign bank. Do Fines Have a Statute of Limitations in Italy? Usually, you will find a form on its website. There is pretty good evidence that the collection agency will not be able to get a judgement against you for the fine in a US court BUT that does not keep the collection agency from notifying the credit reporting agencies that they think you are a deadbeat. That is not good practice either. As stated in Art. It is quite useless to complain about road traffic rules. Most likely the delivery was transmitted electronically when the postman used his handheld device to shoot the bar code. Most of the time, you dont need to register to pay online. But if the fine does not exceed 70 euros, the government may not recognize it. He found out his credit card was charged from Eurocar for providing information to police. In the US it often requires expensive lawyers. Thanks to the Iban system and EU regulations a wire transfer takes one full working day to be processed and can be monitored from the 1st tp the last second. Some people are terrified of the idea of driving in Italy. Most of the time, you will see the instructions to view the photo in your fine. What Types of Fines Can You Get in Italy? If you cant see any of the two, just visit thePoste Italianewebsite. Dont remember exactly where I got that data from, but check the article below on Florence daily La Nazione, (starting on the 5th line). Maybe I have just not in English!! @Roberto A few years ago, I rented a car for two weeks and drove through Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Northern Italy and France and never had an issue. Italian Grape Name and Appellation Project, Poisonous strawberry update: not toxic but evidently unpleasant on the palate. bankruptcy fraud if you decide not to pay it. And, of course Europcar was charging a handling fee. In some cases, they can be more expensive than the ticket itself. The first paper ticket arrived in the mail 9 months after the fact - 57 EU to be paid online or it doubles in 60 days. This amendment makes it clear that the . It certainly was not intentional. I rented Hertz car in late March 2016 in Florence, Italy for 3 days. There are always fees to be paid for the merchant that takes money via credit card. The problem is I only just received the ticket from Europcar, 16 months after the violation(driving in a lane desiginated for other vehicles) we were never stopped by police and no photo of the violation and the ticket is all written in german. If they make a mistake, you can refer to it to get your ticket canceled. The Judge will decide whether you are guilty or not.if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[250,250],'italianviaggio_com-narrow-sky-2','ezslot_14',691,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-italianviaggio_com-narrow-sky-2-0'); It may seem like a good idea to pay before contesting. It is usually a good option if the amount of the fine is high. In the meantime, you will still be able to go to the Prefect or Giudice di Pace. It's not the responsibility of the car rental agency to teach you. If you dont pay the collection agency, they wont likely be able to have that debt enforced in a US court of law, but I dont know if they will try to report you to a credit agency regardless. As a general rule, your reason must be founded in the Italian Highway Code. The same rules apply to bus lanes and restricted zones. I'm happy for your step-son, but sadly the rest of Italy receives utility bills every 2 months. So my partner was registered as alternate driver. According to Art. I tried getting a map, after getting home and discovering the problem, but map was entirely in Italian and difficult to read!!! Most traffic offenses in Texas are classified as Class C misdemeanors, considered a minor type of criminal offense. This is because you kept on driving under the same ZTL camera. Unbelievable ! You probably received the notification from an international collection agency. Thats not necessarily true. You get lost in the historic center, and you dont know those areas even exist. I guess times have changed. As for immediate notifications, the terms start the day after the violation. They may appreciate that you at least try to pay. I'd like to clarify that I did not intend to suggest that the enforcement of ZTLs is a scam directed at tourists. You need to memorize the "do not drive beyond this point" international sign: https://cdn-01.media-brady.com/store/stit/media/catalog/product/cache/8/image/85e4522595efc69f496374d01ef2bf13/1533602043/d/m/dmeu_tc40_03_1_std.lang.all.gif, It's used also for camera controlled bus lanes and other places where you are not supposed to drive a car without a permit. Even so, we found we were entering one during a trip to Firenze. The purpose of a statute of limitations does not apply to traffic violations. Taste virtually and in person. If you go back to Italy within 5 years, there is the possibility they might ask you to pay, but there isnt a national database of pending fine judgement in Italy, so you would need to be pulled over in the same jurisdiction where you got the fine and they happen to have your name on file and they check the file. But how can you deal with them? There are many risks involved when disputing a fine. Thats about1802violations per day. I need to have a conversation with Avis as their paperwork at the time indicated they had taken care of the fines for Firenze and passed them on to me but now I am afraid that wasn't so. Not even an address where the supposed infraction occurred. In the same way as notifications, the time limit starts the day after you receive the ticket. If you dont, you can get a second fine from 292 to 1168. So, if you don't mind your credit score taking a hit for a couple years, or spend a lot of time correcting the credit report, ignore it. You can pay with Visa, MasterCard, and Paypal. The good news is that the third party, European Municipality Outsourcing, is relatively easy to navigate. You always have to count from thelatest notificationor enforcement order. When you signed the contract, you agreed with its conditions. Appeals made to the Prefect are rarely successful. 3. A person who doesn't respond to a traffic ticket may see their license suspended. Is there a statute of limitations for a traffic ticket? Stop calling anything different (and better) a scam would also be appreciated. Are they taking advantage of drivers (Italians and foreigners alike) to improve their city budgets or make a quick buck for the rental company? Of course any fine received via snail mail involves mailing and amministrative fees, but you'd have paid those fees even if you had received the letter 1 month after your journey. I was charged by my rental company a fine for receiving a driving violation in Florence 2 days before they were no longer legally allowed to do so. 201 CdS has specific terms for deferred notifications. But there is another known asTutor,which determines your average speed in a track. I had a heck of a time just translating what the violation was never mind trying to find another way to make the payment from the information on the ticket. You have60 daysfrom the notification to pay your ticket. I would have paid it immediately if there was an easy way to pay but there wasn't. TransferWise to pay fines for a Traffic violation is easy and quick. Thanks very much! But Im hopeful, if not optimistic, that Ill be able to resolve the issue. So, we drive less and less on trips. Thank you so much! Authorities will send the fine to the actual offender or vehicle owner.
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