Mor does not hate Nesta, but despises her for her attitude towards Cassian. I mean, sure, she said in in anger to hurt Feyre, but still. and our Hooray. I mean, of course it did. People are allowed to be scared and afraid, that necessarily doesn't mean that they are bad. 2. I will accept nothing beside that in book 2. p. 297: Im so happy Nesta actually has friends. p. 394: Well, that certainly turned very steamy very quickly. Bc for me acosf did no justice for Nesta :/ but I still have some hope for her. Home | About | Contact | Copyright | Report Content | Privacy | Cookie Policy | Terms & Conditions | Sitemap. p. 207: Why is everyone so bent on fixing Nesta? p. 236: Yeah, Rhys, sure. Good lord, isnt that a bit over the top? And he literally locked you in a house??? Both in the first book (although I did like him then, probs because Tamlin was so, so much worse). Nesta literally did most of the work. He doesnt seriously think Nesta would put her niece/nephew in danger, does he? like yea that's the . Maybe I should go back and check SJMs other books, just to see whether there was a particularly smutty scene in Chapter 21 in one of them. So when he stumbled, at the end, he was seeing the face of his long-lost betrothed. Rhysand calls a meeting of all the high lords, but before they convene, Hybern attacks the Summer Court. It was absolutely hilarious! I'm taken aback. It's her narrative, so they are side characters in that sense. Feyre has always managed to stay calm in extreme situations, and even when she did find out, she was upset, but she did not lash out, nor act on her feelings and say she was going to kill Rhysand for keeping it a secret. (I mean, thats literally what Im doing right now, so ). (Edit, after reading everything: I was not wrong. p. 499: Instinct bellowed at him to wrap himself around her, to comfort and soothe, but another voice, and ancient and wise voice, whispered to keep going. Wise voice, indeed. Um, idk? Spoiler alert: I thought all of them were a lot better than this one . Women use their powers to magically engorge their birth canals so they can bear their lovely mates more children. And here I thought I was starting to like Cassian. p. 735: Shes giving up her powers for Feyre and the baby? The reason why I love Nesta is because her character is very complex. p. 599: Ah yes, a way for Mor to spend mor(e) time with Emerie Also, is anyone noticing that everyone is avoiding important conversations in this book? Im thinking of stop continuing A court of silver flames because Im sick of her. Rhys wants Nesta to seduce Eris? He of all people should know what its like to be used that way! p. 605: Ah yes, more convenient modern technology disguised under a different name. YES OMGOMGOMG. If Feyre had given Rhysand the okay to kill Nesta then that would be the only scene where that would fit right. p. 552: I guess Feyres ability to mind speak had to come in useful at some point. The two sleep together, making the bond permanent. p. 690: Feyre letting Nesta hold a bow once is supposed to have made her an expert? Honeslty though, they should have made Elain the youngest sister. Though it might still be a bit too tame. Seriously though, I really don't get it? p. 159: How do people in this world know about lactic acid? 25ff. POV: If Rhysand and Feyre die, Mor would get custody of Nyx and Nesta is not happy about it!! I know that Nesta is a very strong character and that she often acts like a b*tch, but I think she has a reason for that. First of all, Rhysand is literally the worst. Why would I love Rhysand? ! everything he does is seen from Feyres point of view, which is biased considering he's her mate. p. 117: Why does the house suddenly have a personality? I knew something was going on underneath all those darkness. p. 330: I actually think its really neat that the baby has wings! Shouldnt this baby have been born, like, half a year ago? Haha. It did actually turn out to be a boy. Cassian jealous is a sight to behold. p. 642: Of course I knew this mate thing was coming, but I still think its dumb. p. 464: Yes, Nesta Cassian is an old, old dude, and your relationship is plain weird, like all the other ones in these books! "I'm sorry-" her tone was harder now, like she was just barely suppressing her temper. So yeah, that was it for today! Morever, SJM makes Feyre and Rhysand at the end of ACOSF morally infallible. Good lord. Azriel, I would have at least expected you to be more sensible! No matter how much coddling, love or support the IC and rhys give her, feyre will never truly feel loved unless she feels the same from . You get that kelpie, Nesta! She does not want him to suffer. I mean, some on page representation of an LGBTQ+ relationship is long overdue, but why do all these people have to be paired up with one another?? I hope you had fun reading this, and if youve read A Court of Silver Flames, do tell me what you thought of it! I dont like Nesta imo, she never tried to get along with Feyre and I feel like this also makes her so unrealistic. I mean, I probably would, too, but this is kind of disappointing Youd better stay a Valkyrie anyway and keep that sword, Nesta! He forbade her to leave the grounds and refused to take notice that Feyre had essentially lost her will to live and was painfully thin. Rhysand (pronounced Ree-sand) is the most powerful High Lord in history and the current ruler of the Night Court, alongside Feyre Archeron. It feels a little unfair. And now my brain is officially scarred for eternity. Are you seriously telling me Nesta cant make that? "I hate that question too," Nesta admitted. "Sounds like I was doing your job. p. 542: Based upon scent alone, I would say that you two are mates? A Book Owl's Corner, https://livdevine.substack.com/p/a-court-of-manipulation-delusion, Follow A Book Owl's Corner on WordPress.com, Reacting To Five-Star Reviews of Horrible Books Ive Read These Past FewYears, Recommending Books Based On Weird Duolingo Sentences || FantasyEdition, In German: Warum liest du eigentlich nie was auf Deutsch? || Mein kompliziertes Verhltnis zur deutschen Literatur und ein Versuch, etwas daran zundern. And, like I said, I had expectations. So yes, Tamlin has done bad stuff and I get why she prefers Rhys, but like, Tamlin did have good qualities, and should have just been left alone after ACOWAR. p. 737: The Cauldron let Nesta keep some of its power? "A Court of Silver Flames" and will veer from Feyre and Rhysand's points of view to follow the perspective of Nesta and Cassian and their love-hate relationship. Feyre and Morrigan fight through all the soldiers they encounter, while Rhysand tries to reach the king, who uses magic and illusion to evade capture. I really tried to give her a shot but I have the feeling its not getting better. Should I even have expected anything else? p. 568: You mark my words, Cassian is eventually going to stay and hold Nesta after the sex. Im totally with Cassian that he needs to back off and stop doubting that Nesta is capable of being good. ) And the Nyx part had me in tears, too I mean, maybe hell turn out to be transgender and this is foreshadowing, but seeing that its a Sarah J. Maas book, I highly doubt it. p. 709: Finally, we get to know what Ataraxia means! Rhysand. unknown silverflameataraxia. (Edit: Never mind, after reading the whole thing, I take that back. Asteria is Rhysands long-lost sister. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. When someone just mentions her, the room gets tense and I dont necessarily believe that's solely because of her coping mechanisms, but because they know that they have no choice but respect nesta as a constant in their life whether they like it or not, and accept the fact that she wont ever change to fit into their group but they will have to change to fit her because they way theyve been operating all this time isnt gonna work anymore. Also, the whole premise screams Dark Jewels Trilogy by Anne Bishop without any of the likeable elements. Was it sexy? For more information, please see our p. 99: Two hundred, counting the ones up, she grumbled. Nice comeback, Nesta, but I still agree with Cassian that thats kind of pathetic. That's probably another reason why I like her. Together with their inner . p. 526: I love music in books, but of course, here it was only used as a plot device so that Nesta could figure out where the harp is. p. 317: This whole Merrill business is such unnecessary drama. p. 493: Cassian knew that Nesta often hated herself. Yeah, so why are you being so cruel to her, then?? And two months more?? Listen, Im willing to forgive Rhys if Feyre has, but Im sick and tired of people trying to romanticize this extremely toxic behaviour. p. 506: This speech was very nice and all, Cassian, but why did you nearly let Nesta kill herself and be extremely unkind to her before having it? p. 339: Why??? What about twigs snapping when she went on walks outside? ). And poor Emerie! Rhysand (pronounced Ree-sand) is the most powerful High Lord in history and the current ruler of the Night Court, alongside Feyre Archeron. Yet Feyre was always the hero- the one that kept the family alive. p. 622: I do like that theyre Valkyrie now, but still think its kind of unbelievable that they learned the necessary skills in so little time. So she can have more babies in the future? Rhysand is just as abusive and disgusting as Tamlin. Like how out of touch of reality do you have to be? She can go live in Rhys's mountaintop House of Wind (accessible only by magic, wings, or a ten . We are mere acquaintances. For more information, please see our And unless Nesta is jealous of Feyre hunting, killing, feeding, clothing, ENSURING THEIR SURVIVAL EVERY. If they want their friendship to stick, they have no choice but to change their attitude towards nesta because nestas been through far too much to assimilate into their dynamic. The Night Court goes to help and finds a slaughter in progress. p. 215: This obsessive adoration of Rhysand is not normal. p. 19: Okay, Feyre and Rhys definitely went overboard with this house. and our These people are political doofuses. acotar who does nesta end up with. p. 582: Ill have to agree with Cassian here. Chapter 21 though? p. 302: As ridiculous as it is, I do love these beginnings of a smutty book club. Ive dug into Nesta and I read acosf and I felt like the only time I liked her was when she finally broke down and then when she told Feyre she loved her. . Before he could land the final blow, however, Elain stabbed him through the back of the neck. Other than that, Ill see you on Friday to tell you about the rest of the rest of the books I read in May. What is wrong with you people? Rhysand's words in her head helped her keep her head high, eyes forward as they stalked through the corridors into the throne room. But I can only imagine how truly scared Feyre was, because Rhys would totally kill Nesta if there was no consequences. Why Nesta hates Feyre. Theyre treating Nesta like a toddler! I mean, you can say that he hates Nesta for how she treated Feyre in the past when they dealt with poverty but didnt Elain do the same? And Feyre, stop excusing Rhyss horrible behavior! And Im guessing its gonna be Nesta, who will then make feminist icon-and-Im in a relationship built on trust Rhysand even more pissed. The synopsis states that clearly. But when it comes to the love of one of his best friend it suddenly changes like wtf. Im not sure of what to make of this new over-consumerist lifestyle , p. 13: the apex of her thighs Well, I knew this phrase was going to show up at some point, but I didnt expect it to be quite so soon. Ugh stop right there. And I bet theyre gonna end up waltzing to this at some point. why tf does no one hold this man to any standard it's so fucked A lengthy battle ensued, with the king defeating both Cassian and Nesta. p. 467: Ugh, why is Rhys paying Elain flirty compliments now? It looked as if she were trying her best not to move, to the point where she let the twins do her hair for her, even though Feyre had once told Rhysand that Nesta hated others helping her dress or groom. Someone had better tell Feyre ASAP! And yeah, this book mashes together just about every type of mythology imagineable We have Irish, Central European, and Ancient Greek and Roman influences, so why not add Norse to that melting pot as well? p. 716: Of course Nesta would call Cassian her mate for the first time in some dramatic moment like this. (Edit: Probably because the foreshadowing in this book has the subtlety of a sledgehammer). If I have to read about Cassians cock rubbing against the seam of his pants one more time, Im gonna scream.). Why do people apologize for that? At night, Nesta feels darkness tugging her and screams. p. 266: To be honest, I think Id take the smut over war strategy for bedtime reading as well. : This whole conversation is just ridiculous and extremely belittling. First of all, do you love Rhysand? Im sure were gonna have a lot more of these, too. p. 318: Nesta is such a good person, compared to all those arrogant High Fae idiots. It's a site that collects all the most frequently asked questions and answers, so you don't have to spend hours on searching anywhere else. p. 238: Yeah, Feyre, it does kind of seem like youre using this as leverage to get Nesta to like you. p. 529: Yeah, Im shocked Rhys gave her the sword, too. 05/11/2022. I dont know what explanation the book gave for Ataraxia or in what context it was used, but I hope they didnt butcher its meaning (its calmness in greek). p. 639: What are they doing?? It was a nice reminder why Im not interested in picking up any Sarah J.Maas book again, though. Can't wait for the Nessian book to see how she heals and deals with everything. SJM has yet to manage to kill of an important character. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Not to mention the fact that if Feyre had heard that Rhysand was going to kill Nesta, probably wouldve terrified her even more than she already was (especially coming from her mate). To the stars who listen and the dreams that are answered Feyre just forgave him and everyone who was in on this, and it reminded me once again of ACOMAF, where Tamlin was written off as a complete asshole for keeping things from her. But the reason is still blatantly obvious. p. 193: If I hear change comes slowly one more time Just go ahead and reform your sexist society already, and stop making excuses! 5) Rhysand's slut shaming of Nesta throughout the series. p. 656: Im glad the others agree. Just becuase it's not palatable to you does not make it any less valid. And whats with the Elain is Elain argument? She openly displays her affection for Elain, and not to Feyre, originally believes that Elain is the only person Nesta truly loves and would do anything to protect. Warning: In addition to loads of spoilers, mature content, and highly inappropriate language, this review includes a whole bunch of opinions that might be offensive to people who really love this series. It is excellently written but i don't think that the reason is good enough for what Nesta has done to Feyre. Oh my gosh, I just read your essay and cannot stop laughing for the life of me! Rhysand + UTM and "Context". He was my favourite character in a court of mist and fury and now. Rhyss behavior towards Nesta is seriously illogical and just there to further the plot along . They name the girl after Cassians mother. Thanks for reminding us. ! Yeah, what?! Its gonna be the big moment in this relationship. 2,770 likes, 23 comments - Activereading (@activereading) on Instagram on October 31, 2020: "The Archeron sisters from A Court of Thorns and Roses (Right: Nesta , Middle: Feyre , Left: Elain." Activereading on Instagram: "The Archeron sisters from A Court of Thorns and Roses (Right: Nesta , Middle: Feyre , Left: Elain) [ artist: @uurtemis ] I . Ugh. Cookie Notice This is abuse, Cassian!! Unpopular opinion: those who apologize for Rhysand and those who hate on Nesta drive me actually insane. THE. Feyre was never particularly "doted upon"- in fact, Elain was- so it's not out of jealously. I havent read this book and, to be honest, I dont plan to, but I read this whole post out of sheer curiosity as to where the story has gone. Seriously, all these people are nuts! its like that little Illyrian boy who had to fight for everything he owned. p. 614: This sounds like you have a sex addiction. I was keeping Rhysand from using your powers against everyone!" 2022 - 2023 Times Mojo - All Rights Reserved p. 654: Ah yes, let the 500-something-th Hunger Games begin. p. 304: Rhys is such an asshole. So yes, at least you have that now. The third book was basically nothing. p. 220: Ahh, Azriel And really, Cassian? She finds Alis, one of the maids, who explains what happened and why. New users, please check the ABOUT section for rules and FAQ. p. 672: At least there is one sane person among these Illyrian warriors. I have VERY heavy thoughts about Rhys and this book opened up a whole new perspective for me. But what, it took her being useful for people to care? Nesta and Cassian have 4 kids: the oldest is a girl, the twins and the youngest are boys. p. 234: I agree with the overprotective thing, and gosh, the timing of this pregnancy announcement is awkward as hell. I mean, every womans ultimate goal in life should be motherhood and housewife-dom, right? Well, I think except for HP and PJO, we have opposite book tastes, I did not hate Throne of Glass! You think you embarrassed yourself because you didnt pleasure Nesta? No matter how much coddling, love or support the IC and rhys give her, feyre will never truly feel loved unless she feels the same from her oldest sister which is why she constantly tries to include her in her things and interact with her even though she gets the cold shoulder. Rhysand (pronounced Ree-sand) is the most powerful High Lord in history and the current ruler of the Night Court, alongside Feyre Archeron. It's not just "making hard decisions," (I think a lot of times, "dark" and "unsavory" decision choices are automatically coded as "complex," even when the . Any sign of sadness was diluted away. The black water nipping at her thrashing heels was freezing.. Look at Yen from the Witcher, for example, my top kin. Azriel? What, is it the size of a walrus or something?? p. 559: Yeah, you wouldnt let Feyre near him, so why should Nesta be any different? Im not angry that Rhysand is a terrible person, Im angry that I thought he was great. No two characters (with debate, of course) are more . Also, please tell me they didnt name their baby boy Nyx, Im dying , Hahaha, Im glad I managed to tranfer at least part of this very unique reading experience to you while saving you from having to read the actual book to satisfy your curiosity (Trust me, if this review killed all your remaining brain cells, then I must have a negative amount left after reading everything in its 751-page glory ). p. 425: Are Rhys and Feyre even capable of having a conversation without tons of sexual innuendo? Rhysand and Azriel come in to handle the situation. Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. Really? What did you expect? but entertained by your comments. Honestly I have been most bored during the moments theyre around. i'm sucker for good people villains that just wanted peace and happiness but ended up being bad even though it isnt what they want. Since she demanded her power from the cauldron, it might be more powerful than Feyre's since Nesta's are from the source and Feyre's are through the High Lord's. Hell no. p. 658: What kind of idiotic ritual is this? A big indicator of a character's complexity is their character arc, in my opinion. Rhysand can hate nesta as much as he wants and try to persuade feyre to feel the same, but the bottom line is that feyre is desperate for nestas approval/love and will never be truly happy unless she gets it. But A Court of Silver Flames surpassed all of them. Also, Cassian is beyond dumb. When Feyre returned from the Spring Court in ACOWAR, bruh was Nesta not even relieved. ladyofthe-springcourt: taylors-fourth-cat-meow: Feyrug: *destroys an entire court and allows a foreign army invasion and causes a mass murder because she was mad at one person* However, at the end . Of course Briallyn would have found some way to possess Cassian. And I mean hate. p. 644: Okay, something is definitely gonna happen before tomorrow, theres no way Sarah is going to resolve this drama that easily. And youd better stay furious with your oh-so-great mate for a while! p. 46: So Nesta likes smutty books, huh? Just talk to each other instead of constantly fucking one another for a change, will you? p. 696: Gosh, poor Gwyn! Im guessing its not Killer, though. A Court of Thorns and Roses Wiki is a FANDOM Books Community. p. 708: I still think its dumb that Nesta didnt just go with her friends. Heck yeah! Sarah J. Maas, A Court of Mist and Fury. Rhysand gives her his power, and in doing so, knowingly gives his life. p. 729: Of course theres no way SJM is gonna let Feyre, Rhys or that baby die. p. 632: Nesta Made the house? I'm taken aback. I don't know how Feyre managed to stay calm, I would've lost my shit on everyone. p. 293: Azriel is possibly the only sane person in this entire series. but i think it's also important to remember everything that makes rhysand who he is. Nesta owns no one an apology. I love this." Activereading on Instagram: "Nesta and Cassian from A Court of Thorns and Roses [ artist : @tangerine.eileen ] !! I WANT TO MARRY HIM!!! She holds way to much power over them and that will never go away, it's only gonna grow. Tamlin's father was a friend and ally of the King of Hybern and Amarantha and . p. 634: Its already spring? Nesta is kinda nasty when she first meets Rhysand and her now-fae sister. I, however, think its actually pretty neat. Im all for this kelpie excitement! I didnt see much evidence of that. Though my hopes of this lasting long are severely slim. Instead of that though, we get Rhys scaring Nesta for fun. I feel like yes Nesta is a realistic character but what she had for her sibling was pure toxicity. Rhys is becoming more and more like Tamlin by the second. When Feyre first meets Mor she states that Morrigan is the female counterpart to Rhysand, in terms of incredible beauty. . Rhysand is forced to destroy Tamlin's wards and sends Morrigan in to rescue Feyre. But its kinda cool Cassian actually knew the Valkyries. Which caused everyone to ignore Feyre. I do like her sacrifice, though. Varian and Amren begin a physical relationship after a battle with Hybern, and she later admits that she might feel something like love for him. Oooh. cc: since some people were wondering why i called rhys from the acotar series | cc: problematic in a previous video, this is my video explaining why i . LATER!!!!! "I hate that question too," Nesta admitted. Its certainly way better than any of the suggestions they made earlier. One of the biggest reasons I dislike Rhysand's arc is becausehe does not have one. It is revealed that Tamlin had grown controlling and obsessive, seeing Feyre suffering Under The Mountain led him to believe that she needed protecting. I feel like SJM didnt do Feyre or Rhysand justice in ACOSF, Scan this QR code to download the app now. p. 41: SO MUCH INNUENDO Even when the book is not about Feyre and Rhys, we apparently have to keep hearing about their amazing sex. There is quite a bit of language (13% of pages) and some gruesome violence. Heres the thing a lot of people like to leave out: even though Feyre was angry/upset in the first few moments SHE. The hatred has to come from somewhere right? 479: Why is everyone constantly walking in on each other having sex?!? Rhysand's action are just as bad, if not worse. This means, when Rhysand comes along, not being a part of Tamlin's manor, she sees hope with him. p. 702: Wow, how long has Eris been possessed? But all jokes aside no yeah she's a terrible person which is why I like her even more since even damaged female MC's with issues deserve a chance for self-reflection and healing, despite how self aggrandizingly toxic they can be sometimes. Also, dont they get a say in whether they want to take it or not? acotar fancast rhysand acotar fancast rhysand. Also, I love Azriel. Nesta was in the wrong for her intent to hurt Feyre. I was keeping Rhysand from using your powers against everyone!" Because entertainment-wise, this book is pure gold. SINGLE. If Feyre had given Rhysand the 'okay' to kill Nesta then that would be the only scene where that would fit right. p. 99 notes. YES OMGOMGOMG. I love Nesta, I love the story about her trauma, I see a lot of myself in the story, but I did originally read this series for Feyre/Rhysand. He justifies this to her by saying that he never touched her despite ADMITTING that he drugged her: "Feyre, for Cauldron's sake. We are mere acquaintances. Woonsocket Police Report, I think yes that is part of the reason that she hated her. But threatening to kill the loved one of your wife is not okay, no matter the situation. I think that when she was younger, she made the mistake of "hating" on Feyre for helping their family and saving them from starving. I get into detail here https://livdevine.substack.com/p/a-court-of-manipulation-delusion. Well thats how I now feel about Rhysand. Rhysand growls. People like to excuse this by saying "oh well it's in a different POV and Nesta hates Rhysand." By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. i actually love rhysand more. p. 326: Okay, why do I get the feeling that Rhys is going to be even more horrible now that he knows what Nestas power is? Privacy Policy. She has an assured, steady, graceful, and grounded walk. Weather Greenville North Carolina, there are some really evil characters and other bad characters whose flaws are more pronounced so anything Rhysand does pales in comparison. i love to think about the villain and their reasons and points of view.
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